{
  "source": "oftc", 
  "convenor": "tumbleweed", 
  "log": [
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: start meeting about DebConf16 video team planning", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:03:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles", 
      "type": "action", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:03:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "Agenda: https://pad.riseup.net/p/videoteam-dc16", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:03:43Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: minutes so far", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:03:47Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Minutes available at http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/tibid-meetings/oftc-%23debconf-video-2016-05-20-18-03-28", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:03:47Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: topic follow up on last week's actions", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:04:19Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Current Topic: follow up on last week's actions", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:04:19Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "paddatrapper: you here?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:04:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "paddatrapper: here?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:04:29Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": ":p", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:04:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "^5", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:04:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "anyway, the sdi cables are in the quotes already", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:05:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "as for I, I did review the different quotes we've had", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:06:12Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "i did a short summary here: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16/Videoteam/EquipmentList#Things_we_will_need_to_rent", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:06:23Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "looks", 
      "type": "action", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:06:42Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "olasd", 
      "message": "UPS called me when I created a shipping account for Debian France; they don't do temporary imports", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:07:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "I couldn't get the FedEx rate to DLange :( I wrote to fedex SA for detailled quote and they told me they would not work with \"cash clients\"", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:07:06Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "oh, I got another quote from paddatrapper today", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:07:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "including radios", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:07:17Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "let me stick it in git", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:07:20Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "radios?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:07:24Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "2-way radios", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:07:32Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "what do we need radios for?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:08:10Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "we probably don't need 2 way radio hire (they cost about \u00a340 a pair of good high power radios)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:08:23Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "and tbh we wont need them once we have set up", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:08:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: or is this you-as-in-orga speaking, rather than you-as-in-video? ;-)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:08:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "I received the BM capture cards earlier this week", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:08:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: +1", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:08:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "that's it for my actions this week", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:09:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "IF you feel the need for them I will bring some", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:09:14Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: network team usually wants them", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:09:14Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "and video could use some too", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:09:21Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "I can get my hands on at least 2", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:09:33Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "this was dicsussed in the -team meeting", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:09:33Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "updated quote pushed", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:09:45Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "as to my action item, I tried to get hold of the right person in ICTS, but he brushed me off to the helpdesk", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:10:23Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "olasd", 
      "message": "for import, at that point I believe we'll just have to pay and fill the SARS forms to get a refund for the ZA import; and the French customs forms for the FR reimport", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:10:25Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "who ignored my email", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:10:27Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "ginggs said he'll prod ICTS harder", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:10:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ok so we will use 3.5mm jack inputs on the lecturns then.  no big", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:10:54Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "with a pointed stick, hopefully", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:10:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "moving on", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:11:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: topic Chosing a rental company", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:11:52Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Current Topic: Chosing a rental company", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:11:52Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "olasd", 
      "message": "I'll try to field other transporters next week when I get back home, giving myself a deadline friday", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:11:56Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "shit is coming fast", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:11:56Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "we should decide were we will rent things out quiclky", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:12:14Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "IMHO  Aggressive audio seems the best quote so far", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:12:35Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "^^ https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16/Videoteam/EquipmentList#Aggressive_audio", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:12:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "Solid is more complete, but soooo expensive", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:13:03Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "in that case, highvoltage: around?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:13:04Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "it seems email is the best way to prod highvoltage these days", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:13:53Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "the main thing with aggressive we need to confirm is how many days they charge for cameras", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:14:24Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "since we want to test the setup in advance and can't affort to pay cameras for 14days", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:14:46Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "pollo: take an action to coordinate this with him?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:14:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "take an action, i can", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:14:59Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: can you check out Sony PD150 cameras?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:15:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed pollo to follow up with highvoltage on the aggressive audio quote: find out about extra days, and any other necessary details", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:15:46Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Agreed: pollo to follow up with highvoltage on the aggressive audio quote: find out about extra days, and any other necessary details", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:15:46Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "I don't think they do SDI, but we can use the Debian cameras for this and use the rental ones for dvswitch", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:16:17Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "yeah, that's what I recall, too", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:16:52Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "pollo: double checkking now", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:17:27Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "I think we should have a day or two, maybe three, to test the cameras", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:17:27Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "wouter: the aggressive audio is the only quote so far that gives us this luxury", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:17:54Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "these should preferably be business days, so that if something ends up problematic with them, we can call the rental company and get it sorted", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:17:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "pollo: those were meant as minimums, not maximums :)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:18:13Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "pollo: err, I swear paddatrapper's quotes had extra days too", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:18:17Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: it has one", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:18:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "they weren't in the quote, but they were agreed upon", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:18:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "mmmkay", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:18:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "it's written in bold \"Cameras from 1-9 june)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:18:45Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "perhaps I should look at the quotes before speaking about them", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:18:49Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "issues - PD150 appears to be NTSC only not PAL DV", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:18:52Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: and in monkey language this means?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:19:15Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "differant standard.  we have been using PAL until now", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:19:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "pollo: ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:19:50Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "08:46 < paddatrapper> tumbleweed: got it from 28th", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:19:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: cameras too?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:20:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "pollo: not sure, check with him", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:20:16Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "Video Equipment (ONLY SUPPLIED FROM 1-9 JUNE", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:20:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "I think we should trust the legal contract they gave us first", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:20:50Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "yeah, but don't write them off, based on that, without checking", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:21:24Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "I can #action on checking with paddatrapper on this", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:21:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: does this means we can't use this cameras?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:21:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed pollo to check on video camera extra days with paddatrapper", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:22:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Agreed: pollo to check on video camera extra days with paddatrapper", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:22:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "pollo: still reading manual", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:22:03Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "yeah, I'd much prefer PAL", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:22:16Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "NTSC would mean changing a bunch of config", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:22:34Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "is not sure we have done any testing with ntsc", 
      "type": "action", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:22:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "iff we're going with NTSC (which I would prefer not to either), we *must* make sure the entire room is NTSC", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:22:43Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "(and NTSC sucks)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:22:45Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "I'll check with highvoltage if they have other cameras", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:22:49Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "otherwise dvswitch goes coocoo", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:23:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "oh, our tiny DV cameras are PAL-only, I think", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:23:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "this seems problematic enough to be a deal breaker", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:23:09Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "it can deal with NTSC, but everything must be the same standard", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:23:10Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "IIRC you have to reflash them to switch to NTSC", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:23:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: they are but then they are in rooms 1&2 hired kit in room 3 ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:23:23Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: nope", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:23:34Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "oh?  I have missed somthing", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:23:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "these hired cameras don't have SDI, so they can't be in room 3", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:23:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "18:16 < pollo> I don't think they do SDI, but we can use the Debian cameras for this and use  the rental ones for dvswitch", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:24:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ack will update wiki", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:24:03Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "+1", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:24:10Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "right now I am not sure they do DV out either....", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:24:32Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "of course we haven't asked if there are any other camreas available, yet", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:24:37Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "i.e. PAL + SDI :P", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:24:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: if they don't do DV, I can bring more twinpacts and use those to do analog->DV conversion", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:25:01Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "but please oh god no keep the bad ideas away", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:25:10Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "ewww", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:25:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: are Sony HVR-Z5 HDV Camcorder any better?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:25:12Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "this is the cameras from Solid quote", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:25:25Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "pollo: erm", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:25:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "pollo: wait 5 please still on this camara!", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:25:29Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "I've head to deal with HDV-only cameras from sony for FOSDEM once", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:25:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "please make sure they do DV, not \"just\" HDV, before getting them", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:25:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "because the only thing that HDV and DV share is firewire and \"dv\" in the name", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:26:14Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "other than that, HDV is an MPEG4 transport stream", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:26:23Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "wouter: ack", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:26:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ok looks like this will use either DVCAM or DV format (but think that applies to tape only)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:33:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "Sony PD15 Your camcorder is an NTSC system-based camcorder", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:33:12Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "DVCAM is a higher-quality version of DV", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:33:21Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "dvswitch can deal with that", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:33:27Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "yep but still DV not DV HD ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:33:33Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "higher-quality in timestamps only IIRC", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:33:35Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "we may need to have a tape in the unit to get it to give us DV out ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:34:08Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: no, it has better compression", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:34:13Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "but hard to tell from the manual", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:34:16Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "\"better\" as in \"less lossy\"", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:34:17Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "wouter: ah", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:34:27Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "tps://docs.sony.com/release/DSRPD150.pdf", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:34:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "so if we are happy with NTSC then yes the sony is OK", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:35:06Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "looks at HVR-Z5", 
      "type": "action", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:35:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "so, it seems teh same camera is available in both PAL and NTSC models", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:35:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "ZA uses PAL, so I'm suprised they only have an NTSC camera", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:35:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "we should probably check that it is actually a PD15, and not a PD15P (PAL)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:36:15Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ack, I just cant find a PAL variant or a manual that isn't NTSC", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:36:30Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: can you action me on this so I don't forget when asking highvoltage?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:36:59Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "we can deal with NTSC if we have to, but then the *whole* room needs to be NTSC", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:37:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "otherwise the edit is broken, the live stream is broken, etc", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:37:18Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "you can fix it, but you can't make it pretty", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:37:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "can we use 2 debian camcorders with good enought results in a single room?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:37:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed pollo to check the exact camera model with highvoltage (we hope it isn't really NTSC)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:37:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Agreed: pollo to check the exact camera model with highvoltage (we hope it isn't really NTSC)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:37:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "pollo: we might be able to that too, yes", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:38:03Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "pollo: I think the question you're really asking is can we use two baby cameras in one room", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:38:06Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "and yes, we can, but it'd be pretty shitty :/", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:38:18Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: right", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:38:27Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "those things aren't easy to zoom slowly", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:38:38Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "well we don't want shit so let's say it's not an option then", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:38:43Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "and we usually have them on very cheap and nasty tripods", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:38:47Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "so you can't pan slowly", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:38:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "oh, and no audio inptu", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:39:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "the HVR-Z5 will do SD (but letterbox mode is not available) - I assume that they don't mean 16:9 do they?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:39:37Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: ah, right, didn't think of that", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:39:37Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "that's pretty much a deal breaker", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:39:49Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: ... possibly", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:39:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: which page is that?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:40:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "http://kbnmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/HVR-Z5-PDF.pdf  page 2", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:40:25Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "but this has HDMI out just no SDI", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:41:38Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "the cards we got hvae HDMI capture, right?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:41:54Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: capture cards do have HDMI inputs", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:41:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but there's no guarantee that we'll be able to capture from them", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:42:05Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "they need to support compatible modes", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:42:17Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: what do you mean?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:42:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "mm", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:42:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "\"Letterbox Mode\" means you add black borders on top and at the bottom", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:42:58Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "for a 16:9 signal to be displayed on a 4:3 output", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:43:09Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "but we don't want a 16:9 signal, we want a 4:3 signal", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:43:17Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "pollo: they need to both support the same resolution and refresh rate", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:43:19Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "so that doesn't even matter", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:43:20Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "just having the right socket doesn't mean everything will work", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:43:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "wouter: ack so the HVR-Z5 is looking good.", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:44:16Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "Your camcorder is capable of recording in ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:44:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "HDV/DVCAM/DV formats", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:44:27Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: it's PAL-DV, right?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:45:49Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "I can't see any definite word on that", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:45:56Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "yes PAL color, CCIR standards", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:46:08Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "okay", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:46:16Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "yes, it's good then", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:46:19Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "yep I think the HVR-Z5 looks the better option of the 2", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:46:59Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "so let's say we have to pay for more camera days with Solid, how much would we need?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:47:18Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "is one cam enough or de we need the 2 right away?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:47:35Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "I think we should have one of whatever we're using for vocto from pretty early on", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:47:56Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "so people can start on that", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:48:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: weren't we going to be using the debian cameras for vocto?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:48:13Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "which means we would have them as long as we want", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:48:25Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "wouter: depends on the cameras wire hire", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:48:27Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "we would only need 1 camara on hire during week 1 I guess", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:48:45Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: we're just saying we'll be using the HVR-Z5", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:48:46Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: none of the cams we got quoted do sdi", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:48:47Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "right, I was trying to not be ambiguous :)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:49:25Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "wouter: manual http://www.sonypro-latin.com/pro/lang/en/ar/support/attachment/1237485703979/1237485603133/operationmanual.pdf?token=-ziCq3auwKohL5RO6wy-D9LWzkIBEC6SILp730gJQ_fyqcxzQx0jQIAndgOLHJ3w-UoFqkW1VvzNjoK8BaL_7aSJT4acpTaj5-E0AEbuYPKFnP_C", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:49:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "as to the dvswitch, yes, one would be enough to be sure the model is going to work", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:50:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "and then we'd want them all a day or two before talks start", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:50:18Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "noted, I'll follow up with paddatrapper on this ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:50:34Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "a couple of days would probably be sensible", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:50:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: so that manual points to \"Z5E/Z5P\"", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:51:04Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "where one is NTSC and the other is PAL, presumably", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:51:10Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "we really want the PAL version if we can get it", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:51:33Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "again ack ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:51:39Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "E&P both appaer to be PAL from the manual though", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:52:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "the manual covers both E and P versions and explicitly claims PAL (and no NTSC support)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:53:32Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "fair enough, we should be good then", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:53:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "but that is the GB manual....", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:53:50Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "I don't care what the difference between E and P is, as long as we get PAL :)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:54:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "I am assuming as SA is (was for analogue TV) PAL that it will be the same....  (hope)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:54:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "yep", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:54:33Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but of course US TV also films stuff here (we're cheap), so it's possible we have kit catering for them", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:54:54Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "so are we confirming we will take 2x HVR-Z5 camaras?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:55:20Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: no, I need to check a few things with highvoltage and paddatrapper first", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:55:39Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "and confirming that we will take 1 for debcamp and both for debconf + 2 days?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:55:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ok", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:55:47Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "so moving on....", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:55:59Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "but if things stay the same (no new cams, etc.) it will be", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:56:03Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": ".... SOUND", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:56:04Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: topic Sound", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:56:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Current Topic: Sound", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:56:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "mics I think I am correct in saying that we are hiring 6x mics? ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:57:09Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "18x mics", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:57:21Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "6 of each type", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:57:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ack", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:57:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "yeah", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:57:30Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "6 hand held radio, 6 headset and 6 overhead (cabled)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:57:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ok.  ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:58:04Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "so mixers", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:58:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "Solid proposes Soundcraft EPM8 Mixing Consoles", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:58:22Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "3x", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:58:24Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "we had an EPM6 in vienna", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:58:37Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "it was nice enough, but had no fader for the sub mix", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:58:45Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "looks ", 
      "type": "action", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:58:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "soundcraft are usuly nice", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:59:03Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "this looks like the same deal", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:59:09Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "http://www.hendrixstudio.ru/Soundcraft%20EFX12.pdf", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:00:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "EPM vs EFX: difference is EPM has 2 sub mixes, where EFX has FX sends", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:01:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "I'm guessing the difference between EPM8 and EPM6 is number of channels?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:03:24Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "yep", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:03:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ok so we can use either AUX or FX send, for what we need.  IMHO AUX group is better for our needs and thats what is in the EPM8 ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:03:39Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "did the EPM6 work well? Is the price reasonable?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:03:42Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "it worked well. We used the AUX send for the room", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:03:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "(and had the room at very low level, because of the awful PA injection, via 1/8\" jack and DI box)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:04:16Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "and sent the main mix to the camera", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:04:30Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "wouter: R 500,00/unit/day", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:04:33Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "so 90 euros/day", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:05:10Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "500 rend or 500000", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:05:33Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "540 euros in total", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:05:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "rand even", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:05:38Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "R500", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:05:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "\u00a322 GBP / day ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:05:54Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "you can buy a mixer at that price!", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:06:22Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/199131360/Behringer_Xenyx_QX1204.html ?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:06:32Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "CarlFK", 
      "message": "then you can become a AV equipment rental company!", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:07:01Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: that's 10 times the rental price", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:07:04Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "not big enough (need 8 channel desk)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:07:19Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "and they charge for 6 days only", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:07:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "CarlFK", 
      "message": "you can also drive stuff around and become a delivery service. ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:07:34Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "CarlFK: point taken", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:07:58Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "so yes hire the 3 mixers", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:08:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "will sort shopping list for cables (I assume I'll make them up on site) ", 
      "type": "action", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:09:08Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: AFAIK all the cables we need are included in the rental", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:09:47Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "XLR for the audio are", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:09:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "pollo: awsome", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:09:58Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "will go through and list them never the less ", 
      "type": "action", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:10:15Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "we also found you multiple soldering irons", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:10:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "should we get di boxes for the AUX send to the PA system 3.5mm jack  (and a PAD?)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:10:54Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "tumbleweed says we are in an electrical engeneering department so they are everywhere", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:10:54Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": ":-)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:11:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "and I have a temparature controlled one in a bag somewhere", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:11:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: I can't remember which, but apparently one of the quotes included snakes too", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:11:43Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": ":-)  ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:12:21Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "https://www.dropbox.com/sc/zo4poc8b0p0qh0s/AADlPrAp5L0wrF6PBUwDhXiKa - main talk rooms", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:12:33Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ok so I think we are good for AV source and room PA.", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:12:49Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "just recapping....", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:12:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: \"rooms\" -- does that mean there's more than one of those?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:13:18Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "room 1 and 2 will be DV switch and room 3 will be Voctomix", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:13:21Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "wouter: there are two like that", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:13:24Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: and we're going to use those teensy tiny camcorders in those? ah well", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:13:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "wouter: the others are like https://www.dropbox.com/sc/pow4agff63qv04p/AADyxXU2Npd7FY0_xyszTk9ma", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:14:29Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "(there are 6 like that)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:14:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "ETOOMANYROOMS", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:14:47Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: also, EBACKLIGHT", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:14:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "(godawfully difficult to get good picture with something like that)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:15:18Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "what about the plenary sessions?  are they also in snape?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:15:21Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: the one I said were main", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:15:32Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "they're in menzies, next door to main", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:15:37Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "err next door to snape", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:15:43Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "oh, and we have a video team NOC, over the corridor from the main talk rooms", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:15:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "(assuming it can be locked)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:15:54Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "(maybe with a big padlock and chain)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:16:03Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ok so do we need to move kit between rooms for plenary or will we use GH 10 all the time?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:16:27Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "is having flashbacks of portland.....", 
      "type": "action", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:17:06Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "the plan is to not move equipment", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:17:09Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "however those rooms only seat 180", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:17:23Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "\"only\"?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:17:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "that's \"only\" about half the average debconf", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:17:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "or do you mean the larger rooms?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:17:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "which is less than ideal for a plenary room", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:17:58Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "oh, you do mean the larger rooms", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:18:06Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "yep the smaller ones seat 130", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:18:15Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "well, we've not usually had a plenary room that is large enough to fit everyone", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:18:17Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "its a shame because there are 4 x 110-130 rooms in snape...  would be nicer to keep us all in 1 building  and for the sake of 50 seets for open and close....", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:19:25Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "they are next door", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:19:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but yes", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:19:58Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ok ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:20:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "finnaly then cable runs.  ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:20:13Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: do we need to do that? Isn't that usually the network team's job?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:20:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "or do you mean audio cabling?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:20:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "do we need to make runs between NOC and rooms?  or can we patch (dark) through infrastructure", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:20:54Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "the plan is to patch", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:21:01Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "the noc and main talk rooms are all next door / over the corridor, so cable runs are also possible", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:21:38Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "wouter: portland we ran our own cables, heidleburg net team did it", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:21:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "cool.", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:21:46Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but the bof room would be in snape", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:21:49Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "net team hasn't even given the university any information yet", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:22:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "so they're in need of some wakeup...", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:22:18Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": ":-)  OK, for use we would like dark patching each of the talk rooms to the NOC", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:22:43Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "saves me running lots of cables", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:22:56Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "that may not be possible - there won't be enough patch ports in the NOC", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:23:03Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "(we'll be lucky if there's one, and we don't have to unplug a wifi AP)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:23:17Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "we can check...", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:23:22Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: we only need 4!  3 rooms plus main out", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:23:25Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "at any rate, most lecture theatres have 1 or two ports, not 4", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:23:34Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but 2-6 APs :P", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:23:47Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "and our server room will probably be in a separate building, entirely", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:24:35Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "urgh, we've been chatting for ages :)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:25:34Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "are we nearing the end?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:25:38Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ack  done for me", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:25:53Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "we need to discuss shipping comany", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:26:06Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: topic shipping", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:26:15Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Current Topic: shipping", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:26:15Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "FAI and next meeting mostly", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:26:16Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "I say we go with UPS even though they don't have temp import", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:26:33Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "call them all and get a price for one that does temporary imports?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:26:54Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "I wrote to DHL like 6 times", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:27:13Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "and Fedex's policies are sooo confusing I just don't get what they are talking about", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:27:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "I got sent to 2 different branches (first france then SA)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:28:05Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "to get told they could not give me a quote after all", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:28:19Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "DLange", 
      "message": "pollo: send me the packing list and I can get a quote from FedEx. We're not cash customers :)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:28:34Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "DLange: do you know if they do temp import?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:28:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "seems to be the main thing we are looking for atm", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:29:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "DLange", 
      "message": "I haven't tried that for ZA yet so I don't know. But I can ask :)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:29:33Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "cool. tumbleweed can you action me on this?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:29:47Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed pollo to get a quote for FedEx via DLange", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:30:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Agreed: pollo to get a quote for FedEx via DLange", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:30:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "to recap, stuff is still in Vienna", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:30:22Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "and olasd gets back on the 24th", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:30:32Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "but air shipping is about 4-5 days", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:30:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "so we're still good on this", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:30:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "DLange: it seems RattusRattus will bring some radios", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:30:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "DLange", 
      "message": "nice", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:31:04Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "(and highvoltage and I will probably bring too)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:31:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "Sorry I'm so late. Got caught up in other things ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:31:18Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: minutes so far", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:31:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Minutes available at http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/tibid-meetings/oftc-%23debconf-video-2016-05-20-18-03-28", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:31:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "paddatrapper: search for your name", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:31:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: thanks. Scanned through the backlog too", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:32:04Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "Do you want me to provide info about those points now or later? ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:33:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "I think that's about it for this part", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:33:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "paddatrapper: I think now would be nice, we could have a better idea of what's to come", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:34:19Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "Ok. The cameras are PAL, and output HDMI. The quote includes HDMI-SDI Blackmagic converters for them", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:35:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "paddatrapper: awsome", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:36:22Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "and what about the dates? do we have the cameras only from 1-9 june?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:36:33Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "I asked for from the 28th, but will confirm ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:36:52Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed paddatrapper to confirm camera availability from the 28th", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:38:24Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Agreed: paddatrapper to confirm camera availability from the 28th", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:38:24Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "DLange", 
      "message": "how much is the total rent now (sans radios)?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:38:33Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "DLange", 
      "message": "(can't check the pdf currently)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:38:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "DLange: if we go with Solid Events (most probable), about 400 euros", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:38:58Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "/s/400/4000/", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:39:06Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "DLange", 
      "message": "good. That's within the budget line still.", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:39:29Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "Not if we include shipping", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:39:39Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "but we won't be 3K euros over for sure", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:39:59Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "DLange", 
      "message": "ok", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:40:08Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "now knows AV hardware so will put final cable connector list togeather", 
      "type": "action", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:40:08Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "and we can see what is included from that list in the hire", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:40:29Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "next topic?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:40:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: topic FAI", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:40:45Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Current Topic: FAI", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:40:45Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "next meeting?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:40:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "R74 00", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:40:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "anyone in charge of FAIs&", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:40:59Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "in recent years, I've been doing a lot of that", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:41:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but I think a few other people have their heads wrapped around it, too", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:41:23Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: I'm guessing you're going to have less time for that this time around, no?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:41:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "FIAs?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:41:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "I can give you the FAI image we used in germany", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:41:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "s/FAI/FIA", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:41:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "paddatrapper: Fully Automated Installer -- a config management system", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:41:58Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "paddatrapper: http://fai-project.org/", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:41:54Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "not the most modern configuration management system, and we use it in a slightly bastandardised way...", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:42:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but hey, it work", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:42:32Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "works", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:42:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "yeah, sortof :)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:42:38Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "Ah ok. What are we using it for?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:42:39Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": ":D, one day", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:42:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "imaging the wheezy machines we use for dvswitch", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:42:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "speaking of which, did I mention that I didn't get dvswitch to work properly on jessie?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:43:18Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "Right", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:43:19Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "DLange", 
      "message": "also the main author will be onsite DC16. So support++", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:43:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "DLange", 
      "message": "(MrFAI = Thomas Lange)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:43:37Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "yes", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:43:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "Just got confirmation, Got everything, but the cameras from 28 July. I'm going to try twist their arm re the cameras", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:44:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "paddatrapper: we only need one for Debcamp", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:44:16Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "pollo: Ok, so I should leave it as is?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:44:38Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "yeah, that's fine", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:44:49Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "paddatrapper: well atm the quote says we have cameras from 1-9 june", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:44:58Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "and this is not fine", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:45:03Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "we need one camera for debcamp to test our setup", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:45:18Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "That's the range they are charging for. Not charging for the testing and setup days", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:45:21Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "\"Video Equipment (ONLY SUPPLIED FROM 1-9 JUNE\"", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:45:43Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "sounds pretty clear to me", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:45:49Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "but if it's not, then hurray", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:46:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "That's the cameras, which we just need from 1 june right?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:46:39Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "paddatrapper: no, we need them before 1 june", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:46:50Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "to test them", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:46:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "talks start on 1 june", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:46:56Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "err start on 2 july", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:47:05Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "but we don't need both cameras for testing", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:47:14Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "I guess we can survive with them arriving on 1 july", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:47:14Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "Ok. I'll seee what I can do", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:47:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but testing before the day before the conference would be useful", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:47:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "For sure!", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:47:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "even if we just get one for a few hours one day, and take it back", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:47:46Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "er, does the quote actually say 1-9 *june*, or is that a mistype on pollo's part?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:47:53Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "if it says june, we have a problem", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:47:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "lol", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:48:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "haha it does", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:48:10Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "that's a type", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:48:15Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "/s/type/typo", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:48:23Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "from their part", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:48:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "well, make sure to get that clarified too, then", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:48:35Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "oh dude it's not", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:48:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "because if it's not a typo but a mistake...", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:48:45Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "Event Date:2-9 June 2016", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:48:46Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "paddatrapper: you'll need to clear this out!", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:48:59Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "I'll get it sorted", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:01Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "sounds like a problem to me", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed paddatrapper to correct june -> july (and get a camera for some testing before 1 july)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:23Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Agreed: paddatrapper to correct june -> july (and get a camera for some testing before 1 july)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:23Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "next meeting?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: topic next meeting", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:35Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Current Topic: next meeting", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:35Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "same time next week?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:39Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "I can't make it", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "not weekend/friday please.....", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:43Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "I can't make it during the weekend either next week", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:56Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "18:00 SAST thursday?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:50:04Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "err UTC", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:50:08Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "what's SAST?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:50:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "south africa standart time?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:50:22Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "18:00 UTC is what I was proposing", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:50:22Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "yep", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:50:25Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "hmm, can't", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:50:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "18:00 UTC could possibly work for me on thursday", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:50:46Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "sorry I'm on a plane ", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:50:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "later would work, but no 18:00", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:50:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "as long as we don't try to do that on monday I should be fine", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:50:59Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "RattusRattus: I guess a different day, then?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:51:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "wednesday has the -team meeting", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:51:09Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "we could take the hour before it (17:30 UTC - 18:30)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:51:35Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "can we afford to do this tuesday 30th?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:51:37Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: next week is gonna be a bitch for me (I can do monday / tuesday only) so miss me for next meeting sorry", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:51:49Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: this suits me", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:51:50Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": "ok tuesday is fine", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:52:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "I can't make Wednesday - writing an exam", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:52:09Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: I prefer not to have meetings with deadlines", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:52:09Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "but tuesdays work for me", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:52:22Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "next tuesday is fine for me, but it's quite soon", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:52:50Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tuesday evenings I'm usually at a restuarant with local team people", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:52:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "but meh", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:52:52Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but that can work", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:52:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "and it may mean highvoltage is at hand :P", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:53:03Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "RattusRattus", 
      "message": ":-)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:53:10Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: that could be helpful, yes :)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:53:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "cool, so 24th", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:53:27Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "I'm guessing it can be pretty quick", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:53:43Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "things are getting tichter", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:53:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tighter", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:53:50Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "I mean, closer to being finalized :)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:54:06Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "are we done?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:54:12Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "time?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:54:17Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "pollo", 
      "message": "18:00 utc?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:54:20Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "yeah, I think that works best for everyone", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:54:27Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "paddatrapper", 
      "message": "cool", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:54:39Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "+1", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:54:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed next meeting is 24th at 18:00 UTC", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:54:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Agreed: next meeting is 24th at 18:00 UTC", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:54:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "wouter", 
      "message": "we're done then, I think", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:54:58Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: end meeting", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:55:00Z"
    }
  ], 
  "starttime": "2016-05-20T18:03:28Z", 
  "title": "DebConf16 video team planning", 
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    "tumbleweed": null, 
    "paddatrapper": null, 
    "pollo": null, 
    "RattusRattus": null, 
    "wouter": null, 
    "CarlFK": null, 
    "olasd": null
  }, 
  "endtime": "2016-05-20T19:55:00Z", 
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      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": null, 
      "type": "started", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:03:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "follow up on last week's actions", 
      "type": "topic", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:04:19Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "Chosing a rental company", 
      "type": "topic", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:11:52Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "pollo to follow up with highvoltage on the aggressive audio quote: find out about extra days, and any other necessary details", 
      "type": "agreed", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:15:46Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "pollo to check on video camera extra days with paddatrapper", 
      "type": "agreed", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:22:02Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "pollo to check the exact camera model with highvoltage (we hope it isn't really NTSC)", 
      "type": "agreed", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:37:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "Sound", 
      "type": "topic", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T18:56:51Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "shipping", 
      "type": "topic", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:26:15Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "pollo to get a quote for FedEx via DLange", 
      "type": "agreed", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:30:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "paddatrapper to confirm camera availability from the 28th", 
      "type": "agreed", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:38:24Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "FAI", 
      "type": "topic", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:40:45Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "paddatrapper to correct june -> july (and get a camera for some testing before 1 july)", 
      "type": "agreed", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:23Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "next meeting", 
      "type": "topic", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:49:35Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "next meeting is 24th at 18:00 UTC", 
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      "time": "2016-05-20T19:54:51Z"
    }, 
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      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
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      "type": "ended", 
      "time": "2016-05-20T19:55:00Z"
    }
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}