{
  "source": "oftc", 
  "convenor": "tumbleweed", 
  "log": [
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: start meeting about Venue decision discussion follow-up", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:37:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles", 
      "type": "action", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:37:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "sorry, my attention was elsewhere", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:39:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "(and it seems everyone else's is too)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:39:42Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "I;m here", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:39:53Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "you all saw https://lists.debian.org/debconf-bid-capetown/2015/debconf-bid-capetown-201502/msg00000.html", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:40:09Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "is there anything else we need to look at?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:40:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "not that I can think of. Shall we assign tasks to these things?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:42:15Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "sure", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:42:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "so. I can try to get breakwater prices into the wiki", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:43:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "(and technopark, if those are missing too)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:43:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "I could also make phone calls for some quotes - but this is probably better done by someone in the right time zone...", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:43:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "I'll do the familay accomodation, Fuller bathroom sizes (shower:room ratio, at least)  and Fuller catering quote", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:44:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "indiebio: try to push them away from \"conference\" food towards *cheap* food", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:44:45Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "ginggs", 
      "message": "i can also call/mail people during office hours", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:44:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "that's really what matters for the bid", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:44:49Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "will do.", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:45:12Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "one of the committee members expressed an interest in an all-in-one accom+food deal", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:45:30Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "it's obviously too early for that", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:45:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but ballpark thumbsucks are fine", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:45:43Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "We have prices for Breakwater, was just too much...", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:45:52Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "yeah", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:45:57Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but we never put them in the wiki", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:46:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "so people don't know what they are", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:46:05Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "I see fuller as possibly all-in-one.", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:46:10Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "and I think we turned them off, when we asked for very low prices", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:46:20Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "I think Breakwater is on git - so should be easy to put on wiki?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:46:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "yes", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:46:34Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "the committee doesn't want to dig through all our quotes - they want bite-size numbers that they can compare to MTL", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:47:10Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "ok, that sounds like about everything", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:47:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "I'll write up what I know about exchange control issues, too", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:48:03Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "anything else?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:49:41Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "looks thorugh the side channel discussion logs", 
      "type": "action", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:49:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "could you action these for ease of reference please?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:50:32Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed, tumbleweed will get breakwater (+technopark?) prices into the wiki", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:51:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "tumbleweed: Huh?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:51:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed tumbleweed will get breakwater (+technopark?) prices into the wiki", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:51:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Agreed: tumbleweed will get breakwater (+technopark?) prices into the wiki", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:51:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "madduck", 
      "message": "is listening and standing by ftr", 
      "type": "action", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:51:09Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed tumbleweed will write some words on exchange control", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:51:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Agreed: tumbleweed will write some words on exchange control", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:51:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed indiebio will collect more info on family accommadation, fuller bathrooms, and fuller catering", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:52:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Agreed: indiebio will collect more info on family accommadation, fuller bathrooms, and fuller catering", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:52:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "indiebio: miss anything?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:52:19Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "who does ginggs have to chase up?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:52:54Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "during office hours?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:53:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "Also ginggs to try again with the movie caterers...", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:53:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "want to delegate one of your things to him?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:53:17Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "or try to wrangle better prices out of breakwater :P (marga expressed an interest)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:53:47Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "ginggs", 
      "message": "http://www.accommodation.uct.ac.za/vac_accom/group_booking/", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:53:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "ginggs", 
      "message": "i can contact the Vacation Accommodation office for catering rates", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:54:04Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "nah, should be quick and they're all related., thanks", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:54:05Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "ginggs: yep, we have that in the wiki", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:54:06Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "who's editing the wiki to make it more gunnar friendly?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:54:28Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "do we have exchange control person, tumbleweed? actioned?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:54:48Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "indiebio: I actioned that", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:55:08Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "what do we need to do for gunnar?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:55:15Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "oh", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:55:16Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "that", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:55:18Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "20:25 < pabs> the Montreal bid has info about the local Linux/FLOSS communities, would be good to have for CT as well", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:56:23Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "we should do this too", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:56:26Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "ginggs", 
      "message": "i can look at some wiki stuff", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:57:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "ginggs", 
      "message": "who do we have in cape town? there's CLUG", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:57:25Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "ginggs", 
      "message": "and a python group? arduino?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:57:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "I would also include ArduinoCT, the new Modern Alchemist...", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:57:58Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "ginggs: there are groups for almost every language", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:59:16Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "superfly", 
      "message": "ctpug", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:59:18Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "superfly", 
      "message": "ruby brigade", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:59:27Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "superfly", 
      "message": "I think there's a Perl group as well", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:59:34Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "superfly", 
      "message": "also Ubuntu LoCo, though that's more internet-based", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T19:59:52Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "http://www.meetup.com/find/events/tech/?allMeetups=false&radius=50&userFreeform=Cape+Town%2C+South+Africa", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:00:47Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "superfly", 
      "message": "oh right, I also know about SUGSA (my boss goes)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:02:43Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "superfly", 
      "message": "Didn't know we had a PHP group", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:02:50Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "OK, so who's going to list and make this look good on the wiki?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:07:11Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "ginggs", 
      "message": "i will", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:08:10Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "Oh., also please action myself or ginggs to check up on the childcare - would they be open in vac and open to non-UCT people?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:08:21Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "indiebio: their website says they are open year round except 2 weeks at christmas", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:10:04Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but yes, please do", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:10:07Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed indiebio or ginggs to check up on availability of childcare", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:10:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Agreed: indiebio or ginggs to check up on availability of childcare", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:10:31Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "seeing that ginggs had kids, he can take this one. I'm semi-allergic. :P", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:10:35Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: agreed ginggs to list local groups on the wiki", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:10:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tibid", 
      "message": "Agreed: ginggs to list local groups on the wiki", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:10:40Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "indiebio: :)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:10:44Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "any other suckers for punishment?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:10:56Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "we should probably follow up to the team list, if we do anything big, and at least a summary of everything else", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:11:16Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "superfly", 
      "message": "it sounds like the meeting is going to be on Friday evening, right?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:12:50Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "we can send a summary mail, say, Friday afternoon?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:12:55Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "superfly: there isn't a day yet", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:13:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "superfly", 
      "message": "OK", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:13:06Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "it could be monday", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:13:20Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "can someone suggest to marga that the people who can't make it in person can read through the bids and submit their proxy... or something", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:15:19Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "this has been suggested", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:15:34Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "madduck", 
      "message": "oh it's been suggested! ;)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:26:15Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "lol", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:26:29Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "madduck", 
      "message": "marga isn't the one to be told, she knows.", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:26:29Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "indiebio", 
      "message": "OK, is that the meeting done?", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:26:36Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "madduck", 
      "message": "there's really been quite a lot of rubble kicked up over the meeting last week", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:27:00Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "madduck", 
      "message": "i have personally gotten myself into trouble twice ;)", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:27:12Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "madduck", 
      "message": "but the cause is right, it was unacceptable what happened", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:27:24Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "but it will probably continue to happen", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:30:47Z"
    }, 
    {
      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "message": "tibid: end meeting", 
      "type": "message", 
      "time": "2015-02-04T20:30:52Z"
    }
  ], 
  "starttime": "2015-02-04T19:37:31Z", 
  "title": "Venue decision discussion follow-up", 
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    "ginggs": null, 
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  "endtime": "2015-02-04T20:30:52Z", 
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      "time": "2015-02-04T19:37:31Z"
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      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
      "subject": "tumbleweed will get breakwater (+technopark?) prices into the wiki", 
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      "time": "2015-02-04T19:51:07Z"
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      "time": "2015-02-04T20:10:31Z"
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      "nick": "tumbleweed", 
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      "time": "2015-02-04T20:10:40Z"
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      "time": "2015-02-04T20:30:52Z"
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