{ "source": "oftc", "convenor": "tumbleweed", "log": [ { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: start meeting about DebConf16", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:14Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles", "type": "action", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:14Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "ok", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:15Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "ah good old tibid \\o/", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:29Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "roll call for the record please?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:29Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": ".", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:32Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "o/", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:46Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "\u2665", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:51Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: I am Stefano Rivera", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:51Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "tumbleweed: Done", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:51Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "indiebio: could you write \"#endmeeting\" ?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:54Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "o/", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:59Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "#endmeeting", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:07:08Z" }, { "nick": "MeetBot", "message": "Minutes: http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf16-capetown/2015/debconf16-capetown.2015-05-27-19.02.html", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:07:09Z" }, { "nick": "MeetBot", "message": "Minutes (text): http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf16-capetown/2015/debconf16-capetown.2015-05-27-19.02.txt", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:07:09Z" }, { "nick": "MeetBot", "message": "Meeting ended Wed Jun 24 19:06:40 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:07:09Z" }, { "nick": "MeetBot", "message": "Log: http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf16-capetown/2015/debconf16-capetown.2015-05-27-19.02.log.html", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:07:09Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "aah, there we go", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:07:13Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "tibid: I am highvoltage", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:07:14Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "highvoltage: Done", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:07:14Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "a one month long meeting :)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:07:30Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "tibid: I am Bernelle Verster", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:07:34Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "indiebio: Done", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:07:34Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "we ended that meeting, but with my registration enslave stuff that must have broken", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:07:50Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "let's go", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:08:19Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "ok. Preamble:", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:09:15Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I tried to make the whiteboard stuff as complete as possible, feel free to read ahead and add stuff/questions", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:09:45Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "1. Budget", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:09:49Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "nkukard seems absent", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:10:11Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "I don't think we should spend time on this now. Next meeting, please\u2026", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:10:29Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "yeas, he apologised.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:10:29Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "ok.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:10:39Z" }, { "nick": "ginggs", "message": "o/", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:11:03Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "2. DebConf dates", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:11:05Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "online", "type": "notice", "time": "2015-06-24T19:11:08Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: topic dates", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:11:21Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "Current Topic: dates", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:11:21Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "the dates are a bit firmer, in the vicinity of the first two weeks in July.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:11:30Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "And I think we're all in agreement this is OK?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:11:39Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "yes", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:11:49Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "yeah, no objection", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:11:50Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "Hi everyone better late than never!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:11:55Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "hi tamo!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:12:09Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "new dates look good", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:12:15Z" }, { "nick": "superfly", "message": "hi tamo!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:12:18Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "brilliant.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:12:19Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/2016-07/ is still empty", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:12:20Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "(that generally tracks the kind of conferences that affect our attendees)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:12:41Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "excellent", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:12:51Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "other major event or holodays in SA during such dates?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:12:57Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "I never even knew about that one, thanks", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:12:58Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/south-africa/2016", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:13:17Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "no, July's quiet", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:13:23Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "Jul 18 | Monday | Nelson Mandela Day | Observance", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:13:45Z" }, { "nick": "superfly", "message": "It's not an actual public holiday", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:14:02Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "so that's all great. ", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:14:06Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "*nod*", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:14:11Z" }, { "nick": "superfly", "message": "June 16 is a public holiday, but I don't think DebConf is going to be that early?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:14:19Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "do we want to chat about this more or move on?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:14:20Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "fix the dates as soon as you can. that'll benefit everyone.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:14:20Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "yes, madduck. Will follow up in first week in July.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:14:39Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "move on?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:14:51Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "Hi superfly glad to see you back in action.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:14:55Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "Next ACTION is to commit DebCamp, DebConf to actual proprosed dates and see how that works.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:15:04Z" }, { "nick": "superfly", "message": "tamo: thanks :-)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:15:08Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "How do people feel about following the exact same structure as for DC15?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:15:21Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "indiebio: it is fine. it is also the usual structure", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:15:38Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "indiebio: awesome that makes everything just feel so much more real (I'm getting excited all over again)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:15:43Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "I really like to have long DebCamp", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:15:47Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "excellent. ok. moving on.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:15:53Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "highvoltage +1!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:16:01Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "3. Accommodation", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:16:11Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: topic Accommodation", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:16:18Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "Current Topic: Accommodation", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:16:18Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "This availability is what fixes the dates, by the way.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:16:35Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "The short of it is we now have approval. We need to fill the booking form, then we pay the deposit, then it's ours", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:17:11Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "The booking form is on git: Commercial Groups Booking Form_15.pdf in accommodation folder", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:17:34Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "The good news is alcohol in that contract is not a solid not allowed.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:17:58Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "we also have 2016 prices for the budget.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:18:15Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "no-smoking is ok. Is there a place nearby to party (with alcools) [is also fine so]?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:18:16Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "Yes cate", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:18:39Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "so, deposit = 50% of total accom cost?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:19:02Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "So on the whiteboard I tried to indicate the distances, referencing the map", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:19:02Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "Yes lots of places in the area, and close to town too", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:19:06Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "we might be able to negotiate a designated area where alcohol may be consumed by attendees", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:19:08Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I suggest we take a few minutes reading through section 3, if you haven't already", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:19:17Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "yes tumbleweed, if I remember correctly", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:19:31Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "i already replied in https://lists.debian.org/debconf16-team/2015/06/msg00012.html", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:20:25Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "migrates to whiteboard", "type": "action", "time": "2015-06-24T19:20:35Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I like the references idea, madduck", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:20:59Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "madduck I've already copied your comments from the email", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:21:22Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "i saw, thanks!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:21:36Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "FYI, I can probably loan DebConf the money for the deposit. I have lots of Rands sitting around doing nothing", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:21:46Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "residence is opnly the building, inside the campus, right?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:21:46Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "indiebio: I am sure we can get those references. cate, could you try to get a statement from the dc13 guy?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:22:06Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "i can get you one for dc15, I am sure.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:22:16Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "cate, there are a few residences. Fuller is on campus, about, I don't know, 200m or so from the lecture venue?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:22:35Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "then there are guest houses a bit away. I have not followed up on family and more fancy accommodation yet, as I see the university residence as the critical thing to focus on first, as that decides the dates", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:23:16Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "yep", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:23:28Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "indiebio: so it is a lot better then dc10. teh entire campus were alcool-free (in principle)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:23:29Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "madduck: I can try", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:23:37Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "cate: it can't hurt, even beyond dc16\u2026 so don't just make it about alcohol, but do make sure that they mention how behaved we were.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:24:01Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "no, there is a pub on campus as well", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:24:04Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "crawling distance from residences? ;) ", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:24:27Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": ":P", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:24:31Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "in South Africa you cannot consume alcohol in public though", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:24:31Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "madduck: yep", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:24:34Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "yes madduck :)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:24:37Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "madduck: over the road from one of them", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:24:40Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "phew", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:24:42Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": ":)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:24:45Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "indiebio: this isn't really enforced, though. And the university is private property", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:25:10Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "yeah, as long as you behave", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:25:24Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "yeah, there are security...", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:25:29Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "It's usually fine if you give the security a beer", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:25:49Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "(wait this is logged right?)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:25:58Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "I think we're getting distracted :)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:26:00Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "ok, so ACTION from accommodaiton: I'm going to go ahead and book the whole of Fuller residence (229), base the contract and deposit on that", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:26:06Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "just the deposit seems high. But when we should pay (end year or earlier)?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:26:21Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: agreed indiebio to book the whole of Fuller", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:26:23Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "Agreed: indiebio to book the whole of Fuller", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:26:23Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "cate: I assume when we sign", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:26:33Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "and then keep a arrangement to have rooms in Smuts for overflow, to be decided on a later stage", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:26:36Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "but as I said, I think that shouldn't be an issue", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:26:42Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "indiebio: given their cancellation policy", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:26:52Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "I'd be tempted to over-book", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:26:58Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "which is?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:27:00Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "tumbleweed: +1", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:27:05Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "book out both Fuller and Smuts?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:27:10Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "highvoltage: cancellations/reductions before 45 days in advance look like they get a full refund", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:27:23Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "err madduck", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:27:27Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "well then by all means", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:27:33Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "book it all", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:27:37Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "when is the downpayment due?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:27:45Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "section 4.1", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:28:00Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "on page 3 of booking form:", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:28:05Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "says No contract for accommodation shall come into existence unless", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:28:06Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "and until the University has accepted and confirmed a booking and the Client has paid the relevant deposit", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:28:07Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "per day X no. of guests X no. of nights X 50% = Deposit payable (For detailed information on payment period: see", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:28:09Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "\"1. A deposit calculated according to the following formula is required in order to secure your booking: Rate per person", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:28:09Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "section \u2013 Clause: Deposit.)\"", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:28:09Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "a) 50% of the total amount is due with return of completed booking form and signed copy of UCT\u2019s Terms & Conditions", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:28:31Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I can try to arrange less, but doubt they would fall for it", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:28:32Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "not unlikely they will", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:28:45Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "seriously, I don't think that's an issue", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:28:54Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "ok, so anyways, I will book and find out the details and get back to you", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:29:03Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "anyway, what happens if we cancel part of the booking? do we get surplus downpayment back?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:29:06Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "madduck: section 3", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:29:17Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "ok, sorry", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:29:25Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "we need to convince DPL to release the funds (which should not be difficult), but we need some numbers for the debian revisors", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:29:28Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "tumbleweed: from me, -1 on using personal funds for deposits though (unless it's a last resort, I'm not sure what the precedent is for that)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:29:31Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "oooh", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:29:33Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "b) A further 25% is payable 30 days after date of first payment.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:29:35Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "huh?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:30:50Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "highvoltage: yeah, let's not discuss this here. I'm just saying I have the cash, and trust DebConf and the university. Not necessarily other parties we contract with, though...", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:31:21Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "ack", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:31:33Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "so the downpayment situation seems a bit unclear", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:31:46Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "they do have a clause \"unless the University agrees in", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:32:07Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "writing to other payment terms.\" so this sounds like we can reach some agreement.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:32:07Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "I think the best thing to do is to be frank with them and tell them that we are booking it all because it's not unlikely we'll need it", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:32:10Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I will find out more, and then bring it back.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:32:25Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "but to also ask them to spell out what happens if we reduce the numbers >45 days beforehand.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:32:27Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "to you for discussion", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:32:36Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "+1 to that", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:32:58Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "if we book 200% and downpay 50% of that, then we effectively paid it all already. So now if only 80% show up, do we get money back?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:33:02Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "madduck: it is explained in page 5. anu cancellation or reduction within 45-30 days", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:33:09Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "yes, more discussion with more details", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:33:09Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "cate: not the interaction with downpayment.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:33:20Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "and specifically whether we get downpayment fully credited or refunded if needed", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:33:48Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "so, R283*460*7*0.5 = R455 630. this now only for DebConf, as DebCamp is less, and we should deal with that separately, no?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:34:40Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "That's about 33 500 EUR", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:35:00Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "so, 460 is probably too high", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:35:11Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "So 460 is max residence capacity, and 7 days", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:35:21Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "yeah", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:35:26Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "350?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:35:30Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "is that one residence?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:35:30Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "229 in Fuller, and 230 in Smuts", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:35:39Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "madduck: what size did you initially book for for dc15?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:35:48Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "i booked the whole venue but had to agree on a minimum occupancy of 350", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:36:05Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "how many DebCamp people does DC15 have so far?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:36:08Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "We can just start with Fuller only.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:36:25Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "indiebio: if there is no downside starting big, it's better to keep the options as long as possible", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:36:42Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "ok", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:36:51Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "and if the downpayment is refunded if we cancel >45 days in advance, then there is no reason to not just go for it", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:37:05Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "madduck: the downside to starting big seems to be the deposit, maybe we can negotiate on that", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:37:06Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "we have the money, as long as we can be sure that we're not sinking it", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:37:20Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "presumably whatever deposit we make doesn't receive interest, so it's just the cost of that money", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:37:23Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "madduck: nod", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:37:28Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "tumbleweed: interest is 0 over here anyway ;) ", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:37:47Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "not in ZA :)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:37:52Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "madduck: who do we need approval from on the DebConf side to make the deposit?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:37:54Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "well, debian never collected interest.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:37:59Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "wendar: cate can help you with that, as DebConf chair.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:38:12Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "and, am I the person whose details go on the contract, or someone more official?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:38:24Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "ideally a company, I think", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:38:44Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "well, that's a liability question", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:38:47Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "I had a contact about that, and never followed up", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:38:49Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "wendar: DPL is responsible for Debian funds, and we chairs we are the interface to DPL", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:38:51Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "indiebio: I would not sign anything personally, but we have to figure out what legal entity to use", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:39:19Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "tumbleweed: can you followup?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:39:49Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "ok, who can I ACTION on that?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:39:55Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "DC15 founded an organisation (DebConf e. V.), wouldn't we do the same thing in SA?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:39:58Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "How hard is it to create a throw-away non-profit in ZA?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:40:00Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "(or am I misunderstanding?)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:40:10Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "highvoltage: no, spot on\u2026", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:40:15Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "madduck: yeah, will do", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:40:25Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "indiebio: +1 about not signing anything as you", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:40:34Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "becoming more difficult... I need someone who can action on finding this out please - tumbleweed?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:40:39Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: agreed, tumbleweed to look into starting a company, further", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:40:54Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "tumbleweed: *blink*", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:40:54Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: agreed tumbleweed to look into starting a company, further", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:01Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "Agreed: tumbleweed to look into starting a company, further", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:01Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "really must get him to support a comma, there", "type": "action", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:07Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "non-profit, afaik not that tough, if you don't want to pay tax... that's another story", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:11Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "indiebio: me", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:11Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "indiebio: nkukard was also going to look into that", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:19Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "thanks", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:19Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "can you do it please?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:30Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "highvoltage: well, depends on the sponsoring situation and the tax rate. Generally, we don't want to pay tax.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:37Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "I will", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:37Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "ok, cna we move on please?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:46Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "yeah", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:57Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "4. Actual conference venue", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:01Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: topic Venues", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:07Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "Current Topic: Venues", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:07Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I now have Leslie Social Sciences confirmed.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:11Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I can't remember if wendar had a look at this venue?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:21Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "I did, I loved the open central area.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:30Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "yep, she saw it", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:31Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "Not so sure about small meeting rooms?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:38Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "tumbleweed and ginggs know it, and I think the infrastructure is good as well (internet etc)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:42Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "They seemed to all be enormous.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:44Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "there's lots of small ones on the lower level", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:51Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "Perfect for opening and closing", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:53Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "Also, not sure about wheelchair access?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:43:01Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "there is good wheelchair access", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:43:09Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "there's lots of ramps everywhere", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:43:12Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "the building has elevators", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:43:13Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "They were tiered with stairs", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:43:14Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "and ramps", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:43:16Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "great!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:43:19Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "yeah, wheelchairs would have to come in at ground level, where the presenter is", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:43:29Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "there is also a canteen, coffee shop, ATM's, so I think it's good", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:43:29Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "Overall, I'm pleased with the switch.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:43:35Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "Not as modern or pretty, but a whole lot more flexible for our needs.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:43:47Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "does it have hack-lab type spaces?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:44:06Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "We need to make sure we've got plenty of tables, chairs, and power in the main area.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:44:15Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "indiebio: I don't think I know the classrooms in it", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:44:15Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "as in boardroom type seating or what?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:44:20Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "no, just flat room with tables", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:44:38Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "not as many plugpoints ", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:44:43Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "tumbleweed: I suspect we might just cordon off part of the enormous main area for hack-lab space.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:44:55Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "we'd put out multiplugs on tables", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:00Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "are all hacklabs/talkrooms in the same building?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:05Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "wendar: downside of that is that it's kind of public", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:08Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "tumbleweed: though, I don't know about noise", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:09Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "yeah", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:13Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "tumbleweed: nod", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:15Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I see now, the EBE_Faculty_23-06-2015_12h50_venue_confirmation.pdf form in the accommodation folder in git lists snape venues", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:26Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "opening hours?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:29Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "I know Leslie commerce has lots of flat rooms", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:37Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "cate: talkrooms and enormous open spaces are all in the same building, not sure about quiet hacklabs", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:41Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "should we have a team on https://debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16/LocalTeamRoles for special assistance for any kind of disabled people who can help them in areas where access/hills/etc might be a problem?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:40Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "ah snape works", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:44Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "or, no, those flat rooms were knocked down to build the new amphithere type lecture halls", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:45:59Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "cate: we will try for swipe card access for 24 hour access.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:46:04Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I did not get confirmation from venues, but normal students with student cards have that access", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:46:17Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "the new snape has plugpoints everywhere :)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:46:32Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "indiebio: if we get 24 hour access, and Leslie allows alcohol, that may solve the problem on that front :)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:46:39Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "ok, ACTION here: find the venue floorplans and plugpoints like we did for NEB", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:46:47Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: agreed indiebio to find the venue floorplans and plugpoints for LSS", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:47:06Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "Agreed: indiebio to find the venue floorplans and plugpoints for LSS", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:47:06Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "ACTION: highvoltage to add a local teamrole for disabled assistance", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:47:14Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "I wonder if we could rent a bunch of couches to fill one corner of the Leslie open area?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:47:24Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "so this all looks agreeable and starting to move, which is good :)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:47:38Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "oh yeah, totally, wendar. but let's look at that later. ", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:47:55Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "nod", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:48:00Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "floor plans (ish): http://www.icts.uct.ac.za/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3363", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:48:09Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "tumbleweed, please ACTION: highvoltage to add a local teamrole for disabled assistance", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:48:14Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "can we move on?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:48:27Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: agreed highvoltage to add a local teamrole for disabled assistance", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:48:29Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "Agreed: highvoltage to add a local teamrole for disabled assistance", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:48:29Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "move on", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:48:33Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "blueprint are needed for network and video planing. We need only later, but probably it is simpler to ask them from the beginning", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:48:37Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "we didn't have a problem getting it for NEB - that link has them", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:49:11Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "5. Design", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:49:20Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: topic Design", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:49:25Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "Current Topic: Design", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:49:25Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "tamo, I've joined dropbox, haven't added to git, talk us through it while I do that please?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:49:38Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "Hi yes I have opened a Dropbox folder with subfolders called Logo's, website and marketing", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:50:16Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "link?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:50:49Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "I have done revised logo's as per our last meeting changing all to Deconf, and then worked on some website designed that I am tweaking and will send", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:51:15Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "oooh!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:51:35Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "it's on dropbox currently. Do you want me to add stuff to git or are you willing to go to dropbox, madduck? and if so, please give me an email", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:51:38Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "indiebio: you can share folders on dropbox publically", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:51:50Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "you just need to get a sharing URL", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:51:58Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "mad duck if I invite everyone with the group email that would work right?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:51:58Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "tamo, the dropbox folders are all empty, will you add stuff later?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:52:05Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "Yes!!!!!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:52:18Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "tamo, how do you feel about these files being in a public folder on dropbox?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:52:33Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "I have been a bit slow but getting my aact together", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:52:38Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I almost want to say no to public, there's weird people out there who steal designs", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:52:52Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "I took a look at the bits indiebio added to git this week, really loving it!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:52:55Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "yeah, me too! ", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:53:02Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "I have a window from now until the 23rd July so can start sending website concepts", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:53:10Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "but tamo is firm that that is not final!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:53:15Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "GREAT!!!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:53:20Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "yeah that logo in git is pretty nice", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:53:21Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "wanted me to take it off, but I didn't :P", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:53:29Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "(although I think the font could be a bit better just my opinion)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:53:45Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "we're used to seeing works in progress, we're developers :)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:53:46Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "Those are the revised versions of the logo, and have done one or two more buts as happy with how they are forming so glad that there is positive feedback ", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:54:03Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "ok, so tamo, when you've put stuff in the folders we can chat more about it, yes?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:54:05Z" }, { "nick": "superfly", "message": "I'm not with git, is there a web-accessible link, or a public-accessible repo to clone?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:54:09Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "wendar great!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:54:34Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "erm. superfly, ask madduck", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:54:42Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "oops not figuring out the tab thing", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:54:48Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "superfly: are you on alioth?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:54:57Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "superfly: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debconf-data/dc16.git/tree/Logo", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:54:55Z" }, { "nick": "superfly", "message": "highvoltage: negative", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:55:03Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "Yes definitely I would like to have stuff in by tomorrow", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:55:13Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "superfly: some day you'll have to sign up :)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:55:30Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "can I move on to sponsor brochure while you sort out git, superfly?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:55:38Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "superfly: let me know your alioth login and then I add you.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:55:40Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "Which logo highvoltage", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:55:43Z" }, { "nick": "superfly", "message": "indiebio: carry on", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:55:57Z" }, { "nick": "superfly", "message": "madduck: uh, how do I get an alioth login?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:56:11Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "tamo: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debconf-data/dc16.git/tree/Logo/LOGO%27S_round_2_testa_23jun15.svgz", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:55:59Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "there are multiple logos on the page", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:56:12Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "6. Sponsor Brochure", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:56:17Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: topic Sponsor Brochure", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:56:24Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "Current Topic: Sponsor Brochure", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:56:24Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "superfly: https://alioth.debian.org/account/register.php", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:56:28Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": "ok there are 3 pages so was wondering which one you were looking at ", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:56:33Z" }, { "nick": "superfly", "message": "ta", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:56:34Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "madduck, I'm a bit confused about what you still need done on the brochure. ", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:56:41Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "you seem to sometimes have issues that need to be improved - perks in particular", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:57:08Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "but then whenever I try something you say that what has been done worked perfectly. so I'm confused", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:57:22Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "yeah, at some point in time the fundraising team will need to discuss this stuff", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:57:39Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "and if only to say \"let's do the same thing again\"", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:57:48Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "indiebio: mainly, we need to get design on the brochure", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:58:02Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "I just thought we should have done this already", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:58:05Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "madduck: but we *did* discuss that in sponsors-team", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:58:13Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "madduck: we had two meetings with them on it", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:58:21Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "hm", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:58:26Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "yes, so wendar, I feel that's the only thing left to do", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:58:32Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "wendar, indiebio: and the text probably needs to be dc16-ified, no?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:58:37Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "madduck: already done", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:58:44Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "with small tweaks like spelling mistakes and correct years as we go along", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:58:46Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I'm having trouble with git and the debian-sponsors folder.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:59:13Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "madduck: it needs final review and fix, and it needs photos and design (color, backround)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:59:28Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "ffs, I was looking at an old file.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:59:36Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "SORRY", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:59:40Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "madduck: no prob :)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:59:47Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I also have trouble with finding the most up to date one...", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T19:59:57Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "can you tell me where it is and the filename, wendar, please?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:00:08Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "(and can you please email it to me? )", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:00:27Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "so this feels ok then. moving on?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:00:46Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "indiebio: debconf-data/dc16/fundraising/brochure", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:00:47Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "brochure.en.tex", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:00:58Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "I can generate a fresh PDF for you", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:01:07Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "yes please", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:01:20Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "so for the next meeting, I'm going to move design and brochure to be the first items.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:01:55Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "then, last item for this meeting:", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:02:01Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "7. Prospective sponsors list", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:02:02Z" }, { "nick": "tamo", "message": " Perfect!", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:02:09Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "tumbleweed, is tibit getting this?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:02:10Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: topic Prospective sponsors list", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:02:22Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "Current Topic: Prospective sponsors list", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:02:22Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: minutes so far", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:02:25Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "Minutes available at http://corelli.tumbleweed.org.za/tibid-meetings/oftc-%23debconf16-capetown-2015-06-24-19-06-14", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:02:25Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "indiebio: ^^", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:02:28Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "wendar, (and nkukard), any progress here?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:02:30Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "thanks tumbleweed", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:02:35Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "indiebio: I haven't added any more to the list we have", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:03:08Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "ok", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:03:16Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "anything that needs to be done here apart from just adding more?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:03:26Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "maybe plan a brainstorming session?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:03:40Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "Can you talk us through the procedure if we want to add more? as each sponsor potential has their own file, yes?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:03:48Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "indiebio: aye, just create a file, or if you just want to email me a list of names, that's a good start", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:04:11Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "(I'm happy to do formatting work)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:04:18Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "is there a, e.g. .odt file with an overview? I think last time we spoke I requested that and someone saif that's doable?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:04:22Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "what folder, file name etc?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:04:36Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "indiebio: it's doable, not done yet (.odt file)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:04:45Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "can you do that please? (just humour my noob ness please, I'll get there :) )", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:05:04Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "debian-sponsors/dc16/sponsors-list", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:05:26Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "thanks", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:05:31Z" }, { "nick": "wendar", "message": "yes, I'll make a tool to build a spreadsheet overview", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:05:43Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "does that mean we're done?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:05:53Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "excellent, that folder alreadty gives a high level overview", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:05:56Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "pretty much tumbleweed.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:06:03Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "next meeting in a month or sooner?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:06:11Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: topic next meeting", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:06:16Z" }, { "nick": "tibid", "message": "Current Topic: next meeting", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:06:16Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "22 July?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:06:42Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "that's a month before debconf", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:06:52Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "yes", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:07:01Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "we have to prepare a presentation for debconf", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:07:06Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "urgh.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:07:13Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "which also means locking down some things, like dates", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:07:15Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "well, I guess we just present where we are", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:07:22Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "you may. and we did it at dc14 in 30 minutes ;) ", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:07:27Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "OK, meeting 8 July, focus mainly on design, brochure, presentation", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:07:32Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "and 22 July for contracts, budget etc?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:08:07Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "I'll try to make progress on a legal entity in the next week", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:08:13Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "yes.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:08:15Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "also, 1830 UTC or 1900 UTC like today?", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:08:17Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "I'm easy either way.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:08:24Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "dates are not so important for the presentation, but a feel about the venue, about how to get there and visa/travel/etc. would be nice", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:08:30Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "18:30 UTC", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:08:34Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "cate, all of that is on the bid page already", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:08:43Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "although we need pictures of the venues we want in LSS", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:08:55Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "indiebio: you need to present them", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:08:57Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "yup.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:09:06Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "and the pub, for that matter :P", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:09:23Z" }, { "nick": "indiebio", "message": "noob question, what's the best ppt format for you geeks? I'm guessing a powerpoint won't go down well", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:09:25Z" }, { "nick": "cate", "message": "people are more worried about that, then beer and meals", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:09:28Z" }, { "nick": "superfly", "message": "18:30 UTC is fine, but no earlier", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:09:31Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "indiebio: PDF :)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:09:32Z" }, { "nick": "superfly", "message": "(for me)", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:09:35Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": "end the meeting before we get into powerpoint-related topics please.", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:10:00Z" }, { "nick": "madduck", "message": ";) ", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:10:01Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "yeah, and I want to go get lunch", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:10:08Z" }, { "nick": "highvoltage", "message": "cool, thanks everyone", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:10:14Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "message": "tibid: end meeting", "type": "message", "time": "2015-06-24T20:10:17Z" } ], "starttime": "2015-06-24T19:06:14Z", "title": "DebConf16", "attendees": { "ginggs": null, "MeetBot": null, "tumbleweed": "Stefano Rivera", "cate": null, "tamo": null, "madduck": null, "superfly": null, "wendar": null, "indiebio": "Bernelle Verster", "highvoltage": "highvoltage" }, "endtime": "2015-06-24T20:10:17Z", "minutes": [ { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": null, "type": "started", "time": "2015-06-24T19:06:14Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": "dates", "type": "topic", "time": "2015-06-24T19:11:21Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": "Accommodation", "type": "topic", "time": "2015-06-24T19:16:18Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": "indiebio to book the whole of Fuller", "type": "agreed", "time": "2015-06-24T19:26:23Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": "tumbleweed to look into starting a company, further", "type": "agreed", "time": "2015-06-24T19:41:01Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": "Venues", "type": "topic", "time": "2015-06-24T19:42:07Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": "indiebio to find the venue floorplans and plugpoints for LSS", "type": "agreed", "time": "2015-06-24T19:47:06Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": "highvoltage to add a local teamrole for disabled assistance", "type": "agreed", "time": "2015-06-24T19:48:29Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": "Design", "type": "topic", "time": "2015-06-24T19:49:25Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": "Sponsor Brochure", "type": "topic", "time": "2015-06-24T19:56:24Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": "Prospective sponsors list", "type": "topic", "time": "2015-06-24T20:02:22Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": "next meeting", "type": "topic", "time": "2015-06-24T20:06:16Z" }, { "nick": "tumbleweed", "subject": null, "type": "ended", "time": "2015-06-24T20:10:17Z" } ], "channel": "#debconf16-capetown" }