Convened at 2010-07-07 17:35:33.629935 by marcog
in #algorithm on shadowfire
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<marcog>
tibid: start meeting about Umonya Progress 1
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* tibid
gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
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<marcog>
ok, we all here?
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<marcog>
tibid: i am Marco
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<tibid>
marcog: Alrighty
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<tumbleweed>
tibid: I am Stefano
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<tibid>
tumbleweed: Done
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<graham>
I am Graham Manuell
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<HayleyM>
tibid: I am Hayley
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<tibid>
HayleyM: Yessir
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<bob>
tibid: I am Robert
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<tibid>
bob: Righto
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<TheKro>
tibid: I am Steve
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<tibid>
TheKro: Alrighty
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<tumbleweed>
graham: address the bot
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<graham>
tibit: I am Graham Manuell
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<graham>
fail
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<Hamdulay>
tibid: I am Yaseen Hamdulay
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<tibid>
Hamdulay: Done
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<graham>
tibid: I am Graham Manuell
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<tibid>
graham: Done
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<marcog>
ok, we seem to be missing Michiel and ShadowMaster
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<TheKro>
tibid: who is t3h 4w3sum?
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<tibid>
TheKro: Erk, dunno
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<marcog>
otherwise rest are alive
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<bob>
Anyone got ShadowMaster's phone number? Give him a misscall....
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<marcog>
first thing, can we settle on a progress meeting in 2 weeks?
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<Vaughan>
aaah hang on
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<Vaughan>
i don't have international
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<marcog>
wed 21 june 20:00
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<ShadowMaster>
tibid I am Kosie van der Merwe
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<tibid>
ShadowMaster: Okay
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<bob>
marcog: should be fine
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<TheKro>
marcog: i'll miss, but that shouldn't be a problem
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<marcog>
no disagreements
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<marcog>
TheKro: ya that's fine
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<marcog>
ok, so
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<marcog>
michiel is unfortunately not here, but i believe we have a venue for august
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<marcog>
for the planned weekend
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<marcog>
no accounts afaik
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<bob>
Venue being Sci Lab?
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<marcog>
yes
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<marcog>
i am not 100% sure if we have both, bob can you confirm with Michiel?
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<HayleyM>
fine with me
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<bob>
will do
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<marcog>
tibid: agreed bob to confirm with michiel if we have both lab A&B
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<tibid>
Agreed: bob to confirm with michiel if we have both lab A&B
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<marcog>
tumbleweed: can you check with craig about accounts?
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<marcog>
since i'm not there
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<tumbleweed>
marcog: craig is on leave
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<marcog>
ah crap
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<marcog>
when is he back?
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<tumbleweed>
in 1.5 weeks, IIRC
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<marcog>
ok, can you ask him when he's back then?
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<tumbleweed>
sure
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<marcog>
tibid: agreed tumbleweed to ask craig about accounts when he returns in 1.5 weeks
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<tibid>
Agreed: tumbleweed to ask craig about accounts when he returns in 1.5 weeks
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<marcog>
ok, tutors
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<marcog>
we seem to be going good with signups
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<marcog>
but a few haven't filled in the form
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<marcog>
Vaughan: you're one of them :P
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<bob>
Form? Being doodle?
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<Vaughan>
huh?
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<marcog>
ya
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<marcog>
tumbleweed: can you prod jason when he's in?
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<TheKro>
my bad - i must still identify places to forward your mail to at stellies.
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<ShadowMaster>
maybe we should put it in the topic
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<tumbleweed>
marcog: will do, I think he's busy driving home
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<marcog>
tumbleweed: kk
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<marcog>
tumbleweed: can you also see if flora is still keen?
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<marcog>
sorry, you're our man in the lab :)
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<tumbleweed>
I guess I can
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<marcog>
thanks
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<bob>
TheKro: what do you want to forward?
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<marcog>
then i dunno who can prod brent
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<marcog>
HayleyM: can you email the girls i have down on the list?
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<HayleyM>
I will email them
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<marcog>
i don't know them but hussein recommended them
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<marcog>
thanks
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<TheKro>
bob: the link to the UCT tutoring schedule. I wanna set one up for Stellies, and then forward to all the possible tutors at stellies together
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<HayleyM>
I only know one of them
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<marcog>
Vaughan: http://www.doodle.com/tn2twkhsbuu4q5eb
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<Vaughan>
marcog: i can't do it now
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<marcog>
HayleyM: i don't think any of us know them :/
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<bob>
Alright TheKro. We haven't publicised it yet though have we? But we discuss later in the agenda...
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<marcog>
Vaughan: np
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<marcog>
TheKro: the item there is if you have any tutors you could send to the uct course
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<marcog>
TheKro: to give them some exposure
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<marcog>
/preparation
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<bob>
Good idea
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<TheKro>
yeah - but it makes more sense to email everyone once about tutoring (for both the stellies and UCT courses)
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<marcog>
anyways overall i think we'll be fine numbers-wise
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<marcog>
that is true
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<bob>
Yeah.
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<marcog>
tibid: agreed HayleyM to email female tutors
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<tibid>
Agreed: HayleyM to email female tutors
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<marcog>
tibid: agreed TheKro to email stellies tutors
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<tibid>
Agreed: TheKro to email stellies tutors
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<marcog>
ok, lecturers for august are confirmed
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<marcog>
i've put up a draft schedule
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<marcog>
if anyone has any comments, send them my way
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<bob>
link?
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<bob>
nevermind
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<marcog>
bob is the only lecturer actually here, so no point going into detail
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<marcog>
bob: on the agenda
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<marcog>
course notes, HayleyM now that we have a draft schedule
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<bob>
alrighty
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<marcog>
can you arrange for the lecturers to tidy up their notes?
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<bob>
HayleyM: I was originally set to do August notes, but if you want to thats fine by me :P
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<marcog>
and then perhaps get people like ShadowMaster, Vaughan, Hamdulay, etc. to help write some better exercises
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<bob>
But we can also set a time and go through it together if you want, (online)
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<marcog>
probably better doing it together
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<marcog>
ok, well bob just check with HayleyM afterwards
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<bob>
kk
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<marcog>
bob, we confirmed for wing ide?
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<bob>
Yes
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<bob>
Pretty much
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<marcog>
kk
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<marcog>
maybe try see if craig can get it installed
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<bob>
but we need to do a test to see if it works in sci lab. ShadowMaster: you're in the area I believe?
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<marcog>
even if on a network drive
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<marcog>
would make life much simpler
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<bob>
network drive should work according to our preliminary results
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<ShadowMaster>
bob not atm but I'll have to go to uct for letters
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<TheKro>
(note re exercises: some of the current exercises are a bit insane for beginners, with much easier ones later - good idea to make them incrementally more difficult, perhaps with challenge ratings - intro, medium, challenging)
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<bob>
Alright, can you test Wing IDE on a flash drive when you go up there?
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<marcog>
TheKro: exactly what we want to work on
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<ShadowMaster>
TheKro: another problem is the content required but we'll tru to fix this
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<bob>
TheKro: Good idea to include ratings
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<marcog>
ShadowMaster: when you go to uct, can you speak to bernie about lunch?
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<ShadowMaster>
gar
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<bob>
HayleyM and I will try and grade them and make sure that all prerequisites are met and stuff.
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<marcog>
ShadowMaster: you're food man and one of the few in the area
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<ShadowMaster>
yes
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<HayleyM>
Where are the current notes stored for editing?
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<ShadowMaster>
unfortunately I haven't really had contact with bernie yet
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<marcog>
tibid: agreed ShadowMaster to talk to bernie about aug food
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<tibid>
Agreed: ShadowMaster to talk to bernie about aug food
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<marcog>
ShadowMaster: there's a beginning to everything :)
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<ShadowMaster>
lol
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<ShadowMaster>
ok
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<marcog>
she doesn't bite
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<marcog>
she's very friendly, unlike jane
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<ShadowMaster>
I can imagine
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<ShadowMaster>
jane I'm not sure about
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<marcog>
AV equipment
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<marcog>
tumbleweed, Vaughan
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<Vaughan>
?
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<marcog>
so we have 2 cameras
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<ShadowMaster>
Vaughan: for networking
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<Vaughan>
ya
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<marcog>
but we need to finalise on mic
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<bob>
HayleyM: they're on the algorithm/olympiad server in SVN
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<tumbleweed>
marcog: yeah, we need to move that clug-committee discussion forward
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<marcog>
tumbleweed: do you want to give the current options, since you know them better than me
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<tumbleweed>
marcog: well, I don't know why we are curretly stalling
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<marcog>
tumbleweed: we need to decide on a mic
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<tumbleweed>
marcog: but we are trying to find a wireless mic setup that meets three needs
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<marcog>
yes
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<tumbleweed>
noisy geekdinners (where the speaker may not have pockets), and people may watn to ask questions
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<tumbleweed>
clug and alg circ, which are pretty similar. Single speaker wearing a mic that tehy don't have to hold
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<marcog>
except AC for the python courses would like to get questions from the kids
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<marcog>
i like the walkie talkie idea
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<tumbleweed>
aah, I saw no mention of that
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<tumbleweed>
how do walkie talkies help anything?
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<marcog>
well that's what you pasted from HayleyM
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<marcog>
we can get questions from distant labs
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<tumbleweed>
oh, I see. now I understand
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<tumbleweed>
um, yes there isn't really a good solution for that
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<HayleyM>
now I'm confused, I suggested multiple mic inputs
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<tumbleweed>
HayleyM: to do that properly, you need a mixing desk
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<marcog>
HayleyM: we were discussing on the clug list a solution to that being walkie talkies
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<tumbleweed>
which generally results in multiple mic + receiver pairs
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<TheKro>
marcog: discuss after meeting?
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<tumbleweed>
marcog: that wasn't clear btw, I just thought "wtf?" and moved on
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<tumbleweed>
TheKro: sounds good
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<marcog>
bob: mind if i leave you guys? :(
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<marcog>
they're leaving for the soccer :(
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<bob>
who is what?
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<marcog>
soccer
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<marcog>
i think you can handle the rest
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<marcog>
sorry guys
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<HayleyM>
haha, I have a 20 min train ride to the beer garden to watch soccer, going to be v. late
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<bob>
alrighty sure thing
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<marcog>
important game
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<marcog>
kk
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<marcog>
gl
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<marcog>
cheers
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<bob>
tumbleweed: Vaughan. We can use projectors from
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<bob>
src right?
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<Vaughan>
from src?
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<bob>
(Those are the ones we used at the last course amiright?)
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<Vaughan>
i wasn't involved then
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<bob>
What do you UCT people call the student representative committee thing?
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<Vaughan>
tumbleweed: ?
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<HayleyM>
bob: moving on to sponsorship letter, you need to list explicitly what the company will get from AC/Umonya
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<HayleyM>
The SRC doesn't have sound, the societies office does
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<bob>
either way, i think we'll be renting Projectors and sound, not buying them
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<bob>
So at some stage they need to be booked/rented
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<TheKro>
tumbleweed: you gonna make sure the AV eq discussions go further after the meeting?
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<bob>
Alright, we can do it after the meeting
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<bob>
HayleyM: In the last paragraph I describe what they can gain
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<HayleyM>
Go to the societies office and fill in a form to book with Trevor
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<bob>
but you think I should make it more explicit
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<bob>
Okay, who's at UCT that can book them? tumbleweed or ShadowMaster?
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<tumbleweed>
sorry, was afk
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* tumbleweed
can get up to 3 projectors from SRC
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<tumbleweed>
but they may not like me booking all 3
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<bob>
orsm. Should you book in advance?
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<tumbleweed>
I think CS also has 1
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<bob>
We'll need at least 2
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<bob>
prefferably 3, remember we used 2 for the one lab last time
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<tumbleweed>
ok, I'll give them a visit tomorrow
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<bob>
and now we'll be using 2 labs
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<HayleyM>
bob: I can't get back to look, ZA sites have been bombing out all day
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<TheKro>
HayleyM: Seacom down
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<HayleyM>
nm
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<bob>
Steve you probably also have experience in this regard
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<bob>
TheKro: could you read through that proposal and give me feedback?
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<HayleyM>
yeah, used the wrong link, was looking at the flyer
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<bob>
:P
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<TheKro>
are you on the flyer now?
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<TheKro>
i thought you were still trying to agree on soemthing about AV equipment
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<HayleyM>
Its more explicit than this morning
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<bob>
We're now on the Sponsorship letter
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<bob>
tumbleweed: will be booking projectors tommorow
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<tumbleweed>
I'll talk tothem about sound stuff too
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<bob>
cool thanks
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<tumbleweed>
2-3 speakers + mic?
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<tumbleweed>
mixing desk if possible
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<bob>
http://pastebin.com/jLaZpDN2 <- not ZA...
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<TheKro>
AC has >9K members? serious?
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<bob>
tumbleweed: the speakers need to be in two rooms, but I'm sure that won't be hard. 3 should be fine
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<bob>
Not sure if mixing desk is really neccessary though
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<bob>
TheKro: [things in brackets] need to change
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<tumbleweed>
bob: it'll make life easier
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<HayleyM>
tumbleweed: do you know anyone on UCT ballroom comm? They have a receiver that if you set the mic's to the same frequency can have more than 1 mic
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<bob>
okay, well I trust your expertise tumbleweed :P
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<bob>
HayleyM: I assume you know someone on ballroom committee. Could you ask them?
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<HayleyM>
At least that's what the ballroom tech guy who asked me to buy it told me it did
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<HayleyM>
I am the ballroom chair...
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<tumbleweed>
HayleyM: I know various people in ballroom (everybody seems to be a member, don't know who's on the comm tohugh)
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<TheKro>
bob: "future projects" is too vague - do you know Google's stance on co-sponsorship yet?
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<bob>
TheKro: they've allowed it
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<HayleyM>
I'm just not there check it out, i'll email and ask
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<bob>
I wasn't sure if I should mention it in the letter though
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<TheKro>
"The course is free...." -> "We would love to be able to make this course free to the learners...."
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<bob>
because I don't know if its appropriate to ask for two seperate courses at once.
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<HayleyM>
One course at a time
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<bob>
TheKro: but it would be free either way... or should I just say that
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<ShadowMaster>
bob gives them more incentive
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<TheKro>
if you don't get money, how will it be free?
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<TheKro>
bob: you're showing them how their contribution _will_ make a difference
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<bob>
We won't include any of those things
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<HayleyM>
bob: Maybe put in a section that if you are not able to at the current time, would they be open to sponsorship in the future
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<bob>
No food, no shirts, no av hire etc.
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<bob>
HayleyM: Alright. I could do that.
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<HayleyM>
I know some places have allocated budgets for this year but not next year
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<bob>
Alright. That makes sense. Will phrase it like that then
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<bob>
Okay, and anyone got any other ideas for who I should send the letter to?
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<bob>
Also, do I send it one at a time...
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<bob>
or all at once? What happens if more than one company says yes?
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<HayleyM>
Send one at a time
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<tumbleweed>
bob: yes, you personalise as much as you can
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<HayleyM>
Normally they have a fairly quick response time
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<bob>
Which order? The order listed there?
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<TheKro>
Just include a desired response time in your letter then, as well
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<TheKro>
so people don't sit on it
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<bob>
Alright. Will do.
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<HayleyM>
the order looks fine
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<TheKro>
I'd first go with past sponsor, unless you had a problem with them
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<TheKro>
companies like building a relationship, and they know what they're signing up for - more likely to say yes
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<bob>
TheKro: good idea. Also, if we get a sponsor immediately, should I send to another company for Stellenbosch course?
[18:16:59]
<Zy>
is meeting still going on?
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<Zy>
sorry I'm late
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<bob>
Hey Zy, yeah it is
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<TheKro>
bob: talk about stb course another time
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<tumbleweed>
tibid: minutes so far
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<tibid>
Minutes available at http://holst.cs.uct.ac.za/~stefanor/tibid-logs/meetings/shadowfire-%23algorithm-2010-07-07-17-35-33
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<tumbleweed>
Zy: ^
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<TheKro>
bob: after the meeting
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<Zy>
ty tumbleweed
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<bob>
okay. will do. Then we can move onto Advertising
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<bob>
Michiel unfortunately isn't here. He's going to handle emailing the schools and stuff.
[18:18:22]
<bob>
ShadowMaster: how's the post doing?
[18:18:30]
<bob>
wait sorry
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<bob>
first you guys need to criticize my posters :P
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<HayleyM>
that is under advertising :P
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<bob>
The first link is just an informational page that can probably be sent to teachers, put on mailing lists, on the website etc.
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<HayleyM>
ty
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<tumbleweed>
oh, that reminds me. if we are doing sponsorship requests, do we not want to get the website a little more polished first?
[18:20:44]
<bob>
The second one is a poster that could be stuck up in schools, or made as an advert in newspapers for example.
[18:20:53]
<bob>
tumbleweed: ideally
[18:21:07]
<tumbleweed>
bob: I mean, good first impressions are important
[18:19:49]
<bob>
http://pastebin.com/eDX0LNzs <- for HayleyM without ZA bandwidth :P
[18:21:17]
<HayleyM>
yes ideally we would want polished site
[18:21:24]
<HayleyM>
the poster is a little overpowering, can we lessen the blue
[18:21:34]
<bob>
Seeing as people want to look at the website first. I haven't included website in sponsorship letter yet.
[18:21:38]
<bob>
HayleyM: I can make it Black
[18:21:40]
<HayleyM>
the letter is fine
[18:22:35]
<tumbleweed>
can we reduce the number of fonts? it's a bit chaotic
[18:22:38]
<bob>
Any other comments about the poster? I heard too many fonts before
[18:22:45]
<HayleyM>
bob: Are you emailing sponsorship requests or post?
[18:23:01]
<Zy>
tibid I am Henk
[18:23:01]
<tibid>
Zy: Sure
[18:23:01]
<bob>
yip alright. So the big area of concern is that jaggered area in the middle
[18:23:02]
<bob>
HayleyM: email
[18:23:42]
<bob>
tumbleweed: you think I should change the bottom and top fonts?
[18:24:13]
<bob>
To which one? If only the python font was freely available. (Flux Regular if anyone can find it send it my way ;)
[18:24:23]
<TheKro>
bob: stb bias: would be nice if the poster gave info for stb and uct courses
[18:24:23]
<tumbleweed>
bob: it's hard to say, I just get the impression of a cheap flyer
[18:24:30]
<TheKro>
then we only need one flyer
[18:25:05]
<bob>
TheKro: It should be easy to change it to a Stb poster. For sending to stellebosch schools or for inclusion in stellenbosch newspapers
[18:25:13]
<bob>
or do you think a combined one would be better?
[18:25:35]
<tumbleweed>
bob: the four sections look completely different. the only common is the blue
[18:25:37]
<TheKro>
bob: depends on how you want to market, i don't mind either way
[18:25:37]
<HayleyM>
Don't think combined
[18:25:46]
<tumbleweed>
bob: it needs some way to integrate them together
[18:25:54]
<bob>
Okay, so which of the four sections do you prefer?
[18:26:01]
<TheKro>
bob: it could be nice to give ppl a choice - perhaps going to the other venue if the can't make the course on the other days
[18:26:12]
<tumbleweed>
bob: less fonts would probably help too. and possibly losing teh jagged edges
[18:26:38]
<bob>
TheKro: the choice WILL be on the website. But I see what you mean if they see a poster and get excited and then realise they can't make the date they might not even bother to go to the website
[18:26:39]
* TheKro
is ducking now, sorry - off to see soccer
[18:26:53]
<tumbleweed>
(or keep them for the python thing but not again for the middle block)
[18:27:13]
<graham>
ja, what tumbleweed says
[18:27:19]
<TheKro>
Get a graphic designer to do: An Introduction To
[18:27:20]
<TheKro>
COMPUTER PROGRAMMING
[18:27:20]
<TheKro>
with Python
[18:27:25]
<TheKro>
ciao for now
[18:27:05]
<TheKro>
(Details on other courses at umonya.co.za) ?
[18:27:44]
<bob>
Cheers TheKro.
[18:27:58]
<bob>
Do we know any graphic designers?
[18:28:18]
<ShadowMaster>
Ian?
[18:28:40]
<ShadowMaster>
is he one?
[18:28:43]
<graham>
i think i we need to choose a font, i like all of them except the bold one "in grade ..."
[18:28:43]
<HayleyM>
only know ones that will charge you
[18:28:48]
<graham>
*if we
[18:29:24]
<tumbleweed>
bob: I asked my flatmate (architect): "It's so crazy it might just work"
[18:29:30]
<bob>
Sigh. this is hard.
[18:29:35]
<bob>
Lol tumbleweed
[18:29:57]
<graham>
bob: if it's any consolation, i like your poster ;)
[18:30:01]
<graham>
well, mainly
[18:30:31]
<bob>
Thanks graham :P Okay. I'll look at finding some graphics designers/doing some rewrites of it. I'll keep you guys posted?
[18:30:53]
<bob>
ShadowMaster: letters?
[18:30:53]
<HayleyM>
awesome, moving on...the soccer is starting
[18:31:13]
<tumbleweed>
bob: however, I have no major objections - it's ok by me
[18:31:18]
<ShadowMaster>
ok well I forgot about them but I'll look at it tomorrow
[18:31:38]
<bob>
Fail ShadowMaster. Seriously
[18:31:44]
<ShadowMaster>
though I need to know roughly how many letters I'll need to pring
[18:31:46]
<ShadowMaster>
*print
[18:31:48]
<bob>
Where is Hamdulay? He's helping you right?
[18:31:53]
<ShadowMaster>
yeah
[18:32:28]
<graham>
ok. quick quick...
[18:32:46]
<bob>
Shucks to tell you the truth I'm not sure. Around 300?
[18:32:57]
<bob>
Between you and Michiel you'll sort it out though right?
[18:33:20]
<ShadowMaster>
Michiel: needs to stop being dead though
[18:33:26]
<bob>
Sigh and Ryan aren't here
[18:33:33]
<HayleyM>
Ok, the website seems to be functional (has an info page at least). I saw the application form is there but not all the fields are present (asking to describe process)
[18:34:04]
<ShadowMaster>
bob did you help last time?
[18:34:04]
<bob>
I do believe ryan's working on it. I did send an email about the application form to him, but no response yet
[18:34:25]
<ShadowMaster>
with the letters
[18:34:31]
<bob>
ShadowMaster: wrt posting letters? No. Wasn't involved there
[18:34:33]
<HayleyM>
move on then, we'll wait for his reply
[18:34:57]
<ShadowMaster>
so bob I can only send out the letters when the posters are finished?
[18:35:11]
<bob>
Okay. and besides the website and Stellenbosch course
[18:35:26]
<bob>
(steve is gone) is project Umonya
[18:35:27]
<HayleyM>
Stellenbosch date confirmed?
[18:35:38]
<bob>
but I think we leave that meeting till next time.
[18:35:46]
<bob>
Date is 18 September
[18:36:03]
<bob>
There've been no objections to it, so it should be fine
[18:36:08]
<HayleyM>
only 18 Sept or 18-19 Sept?
[18:36:26]
<bob>
The lecturers are confirmed, but we should probably make a doodle for who wants to tutor there.
[18:36:40]
<bob>
We should probably also talk about arranging a Shuttle?
[18:36:45]
<bob>
Or will we just carpool?
[18:37:19]
<HayleyM>
carpool
[18:37:27]
<HayleyM>
it'll be cheaper
[18:37:40]
<tumbleweed>
jammie shuttles are expensive
[18:37:42]
<bob>
Its probably the easiest. But we might look at repaying for petrol from funds if we get any?
[18:37:51]
<HayleyM>
pay for petrol
[18:38:18]
<HayleyM>
is it going to be a 2 day course? do I need to look for B&B accomm?
[18:38:39]
<bob>
HayleyM: I think it will be easier to drive back in the evenings
[18:39:01]
<bob>
Its around 50 minutes
[18:39:01]
<HayleyM>
ok
[18:39:46]
<bob>
Okay. Are you guys keen to do Umonya Meeting at another stage. Seeing as everyone wants to watch soccer?
[18:40:01]
<HayleyM>
I don't mind
[18:40:04]
<graham>
yes
[18:40:22]
<bob>
Okay. Then when?
[18:40:43]
<HayleyM>
Most of it can be left to next progress meeting
[18:40:50]
<bob>
Hey who took beenies vs shirts out of the agenda?!?!?
[18:40:56]
<graham>
not tomorrow, otherwise whenever for me
[18:41:03]
<graham>
lol bob
[18:41:10]
<HayleyM>
I'm just curious about jhb and durban contacts
[18:41:23]
<bob>
HayleyM: I haven't got to JHB at all
[18:41:34]
<bob>
KZN hasn't replied, but I'll ping again
[18:41:44]
<ShadowMaster>
I hope it wasn't me
[18:42:16]
<bob>
But you're right. Thats actually top priority.
[18:42:30]
<bob>
I'll phone KZN guy again
[18:42:49]
<bob>
But does someone else want to help with JHB?
[18:42:54]
<HayleyM>
bob: You also need to sign up for ICT Conference as co-presenter before next week
[18:43:01]
<bob>
HayleyM: link
[18:43:36]
<bob>
kk will do that now
[18:43:27]
<HayleyM>
http://www.conf2010.school.za/
[18:43:57]
<bob>
You guys want to vote on shirts vs Beenies?
[18:44:11]
<HayleyM>
Do we have a contact in JHB already that we need to talk to again?
[18:44:38]
<bob>
HayleyM: did you get a confirmation from ICT Conference?
[18:44:52]
<graham>
anyway, i'm off. cheers guys
[18:44:54]
<bob>
HayleyM: Our only contact is DougX
[18:44:58]
<bob>
Cheers Graham
[18:45:08]
<HayleyM>
no, deadline hasn't passed yet for review
[18:45:10]
<tumbleweed>
are we done?
[18:45:12]
<bob>
But he's not actually involved in the universities
[18:45:30]
<bob>
Yes. tumbleweed tell tibid the meetings over
[18:45:38]
<tumbleweed>
tibid: end meeting